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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://federalistpaupers.com/index.php/2009/12/31/silly-radley/comment-page-1/#comment-216843</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think there’s much threat right now to the very core of First Amendment liberties, as shown by the tea partiers. However, as shown by police reaction to the G20 protesters, and the complete lack of a public response to that unjustified repression, political expression that is not at the very core of the First Amendment is, as a matter of fact, no longer protected.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Got it, and fair point about needing to focus limited resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think there’s much threat right now to the very core of First Amendment liberties, as shown by the tea partiers. However, as shown by police reaction to the G20 protesters, and the complete lack of a public response to that unjustified repression, political expression that is not at the very core of the First Amendment is, as a matter of fact, no longer protected.</p></blockquote>
<p>Got it, and fair point about needing to focus limited resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing, I guess, so long as you don&#039;t mind cops arresting people in violation of the Constitution, courts not enforcing the Constitution, and the public not caring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing, I guess, so long as you don&#8217;t mind cops arresting people in violation of the Constitution, courts not enforcing the Constitution, and the public not caring.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does populist expediency have to do with The Constitution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does populist expediency have to do with The Constitution?</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because preserving the freedom of others to do offensive things is always an uphill fight. Social tolerance for the offensive is limited, at best. Libertarians have spent a lot of political capital convincing the public that the First Amendment is that thing that allows Larry Flynt to publish Hustler, and that allows some company to take our former domain name and put rape porn there. It&#039;s not intuitive to most that the same dozen words or so, written two hundred years ago, protect Hustler &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; G20 protesters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because preserving the freedom of others to do offensive things is always an uphill fight. Social tolerance for the offensive is limited, at best. Libertarians have spent a lot of political capital convincing the public that the First Amendment is that thing that allows Larry Flynt to publish Hustler, and that allows some company to take our former domain name and put rape porn there. It&#8217;s not intuitive to most that the same dozen words or so, written two hundred years ago, protect Hustler <i>and</i> G20 protesters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, why is the first amendment limited? Why is there &quot;only so much first amendment to go around&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, why is the first amendment limited? Why is there &#8220;only so much first amendment to go around&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

Perhaps I was a little obscure in my point, so I&#039;ll restate it. There&#039;s only so much First Amendment to go around. The libertarians have stretched it out to cover the extremes of pornographic expression. As such, there&#039;s not enough left to cover the extremes of political expression, or really anything that varies from our traditional notions of political expression. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s much threat right now to the very core of First Amendment liberties, as shown by the tea partiers. However, as shown by police reaction to the G20 protesters, and the complete lack of a public response to that unjustified repression, political expression that is not at the very core of the First Amendment is, as a matter of fact, no longer protected.

Boda,

I&#039;m not sure what memos you&#039;ve seen showing that the the tea parties were nefariously organized by corporatist theocrats (or whoever you think was behind it), but I ain&#039;t seen a one. Until I do, I&#039;ll continue to regard such baseless blithering as the bullshit ramblings of a bitter hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Perhaps I was a little obscure in my point, so I&#8217;ll restate it. There&#8217;s only so much First Amendment to go around. The libertarians have stretched it out to cover the extremes of pornographic expression. As such, there&#8217;s not enough left to cover the extremes of political expression, or really anything that varies from our traditional notions of political expression. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much threat right now to the very core of First Amendment liberties, as shown by the tea partiers. However, as shown by police reaction to the G20 protesters, and the complete lack of a public response to that unjustified repression, political expression that is not at the very core of the First Amendment is, as a matter of fact, no longer protected.</p>
<p>Boda,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what memos you&#8217;ve seen showing that the the tea parties were nefariously organized by corporatist theocrats (or whoever you think was behind it), but I ain&#8217;t seen a one. Until I do, I&#8217;ll continue to regard such baseless blithering as the bullshit ramblings of a bitter hack.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Boda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Boda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G-20 was in Pittsburgh to get their pictures taken. Nothing more. I can&#039;t imagine that figures from the US creation myths would be too fond of that. I&#039;m no medium, so who really knows?

Aside from the actions of the &#039;hero&#039; police, there is very little in the way of &quot;violence and disorder&quot; at protests in the US, at least not for the past 40 years or so. Protests might matter if they were.

There are no shortage of self-described &quot;Libertarians&quot; who are strangely excited about being useful idiots at GOP/K-Street/MSM stage-managed &quot;tea parties&quot; which are every bit as spontaneous and representative as a Columbus Day parade. They are not effecting policy, just a means of solidifying the GOP&#039;s flagsucking/theocratic base for mid-terms. Obama is still carrying out Bush policy. Like birther lawsuits, they have had no influence. 
Like the anti-Iraq war protests, that at the height of their popularity which were run by the Stalinists, the &quot;tea party&quot; dupes can&#039;t really believe that politicians hang out in their offices on the weekends with binoculars reading their signs and acting accordingly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G-20 was in Pittsburgh to get their pictures taken. Nothing more. I can&#8217;t imagine that figures from the US creation myths would be too fond of that. I&#8217;m no medium, so who really knows?</p>
<p>Aside from the actions of the &#8216;hero&#8217; police, there is very little in the way of &#8220;violence and disorder&#8221; at protests in the US, at least not for the past 40 years or so. Protests might matter if they were.</p>
<p>There are no shortage of self-described &#8220;Libertarians&#8221; who are strangely excited about being useful idiots at GOP/K-Street/MSM stage-managed &#8220;tea parties&#8221; which are every bit as spontaneous and representative as a Columbus Day parade. They are not effecting policy, just a means of solidifying the GOP&#8217;s flagsucking/theocratic base for mid-terms. Obama is still carrying out Bush policy. Like birther lawsuits, they have had no influence.<br />
Like the anti-Iraq war protests, that at the height of their popularity which were run by the Stalinists, the &#8220;tea party&#8221; dupes can&#8217;t really believe that politicians hang out in their offices on the weekends with binoculars reading their signs and acting accordingly?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apollo,

If the Tea Party movement is intact and marching unperturbed, doesn&#039;t that lend credence for the current libertarian argument, i.e., that an overzealous concern with the rights of G20 protesters has actually made the world safer for Tea Partiers?  You very much had my attention for the first few paragraphs, but your argument fell in on itself at the end there.

Also, in his defense, Balko first &lt;a href=http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/05/scenes-from-a-crackdown rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;covered this&lt;/a&gt; back in October.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apollo,</p>
<p>If the Tea Party movement is intact and marching unperturbed, doesn&#8217;t that lend credence for the current libertarian argument, i.e., that an overzealous concern with the rights of G20 protesters has actually made the world safer for Tea Partiers?  You very much had my attention for the first few paragraphs, but your argument fell in on itself at the end there.</p>
<p>Also, in his defense, Balko first <a href=http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/05/scenes-from-a-crackdown rel="nofollow">covered this</a> back in October.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who then are the wise men that are to be the arbiters of acceptable free speech? You? Me? Larry Flynt?

The Founders in their wisdom realized that no man, or group of men, were capable, let a lone justified, in making that determination. So they crafted their founding document to protect all speech - whether you find it the quaint province of libertarians or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who then are the wise men that are to be the arbiters of acceptable free speech? You? Me? Larry Flynt?</p>
<p>The Founders in their wisdom realized that no man, or group of men, were capable, let a lone justified, in making that determination. So they crafted their founding document to protect all speech &#8211; whether you find it the quaint province of libertarians or not.</p>
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